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15th Sep 2025

Beyond planning - getting the basics right with bricks and clicks

Welcome to another episode of Retail Reckoning with me, Clare Bailey.

In this week’s show, we move beyond the headlines about planning reforms and tackle what it really takes for the UK high street to thrive.

With the government slashing red tape—think easier outdoor dining permits and fast-track conversions for empty shops—there’s plenty of buzz.

But do these changes address the core issues facing retailers and local economies, or are they just window dressing on deeper challenges?

I'll dive into the harsh realities: rising costs, sky-high rents, inflation, and staff shortages that hit businesses where it hurts most.

I'll explain why planning reforms alone can't solve the affordability crisis for shoppers and shopkeepers, and what actually makes a high street worth visiting in today’s climate.

If you’re ready to get to the heart of what keeps local commerce alive—even in uncertain times—this episode is packed with practical strategies and a candid look at the future of the high street.

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In this episode, we're going to look beyond planning. Getting the basics

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right, bricks and clicks, enhancing the customer journey and

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creating places to be proud of. It's about what the UK high

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street really needs to thrive.

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Welcome back to the third episode of Retail Reckoning. I'm Claire

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Bailey and today we're diving into the Government's tearing through red tape again.

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You'll have seen the headlines. Al fresco dining zones, fast track

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permits, noise protection for music venues and even auctions for

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empty high streets. That sounds great, but hang on, let's not pop. The

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Prosecco just yet

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owns the floor. Planning

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reform makes good headlines, but it isn't a magic wand. You can't

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legislate your way out of economic gravity and you certainly can't

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save the high street with outdoor seating. Today we're asking

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what will it really take for the high street to thrive again? And

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is planning just the sugar coating on a much bigger pie?

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So let's look at this in more detail. Red tape's been slashed,

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but there's actually an underlying problem. So what's been

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offered? Easier al fresco permits, simpler

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conversions for empty shops, a national licensing

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overhaul and councils being able to rent out long term vacant

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units. It's all very good on paper and we do need to remove

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the silly obstacles. I mean, why would a bakery need nine months of form

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filling just to put a chair outside? It is important, but the

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idea of councils auctioning off dead space is great in theory,

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and who wouldn't want to see a lifeless shop turned into a microbrewery or

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an artist pop up overnight? But these are not the

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fixes. The Centre for Cities, to quote

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them said high street decline is mostly the result of

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weak local economies. Well, they're bang on. Planning

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permission doesn't give people more disposable income. Sidewalk

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cafes don't pay your staff or your business rents. We're not

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dealing with zoning problems, we're dealing with an affordability crisis. And that's both

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for the shoppers and for the shopkeepers. And it's been driven by

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inflation. And when the news headlines say inflation

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has fallen too, that's just like somebody had their foot

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on the accelerator all the way to the floor and it was running away at

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10% and now they've got their foot still on the accelerator,

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but they're not accelerating as much as they were before. That's not

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to say that they haven't reached a certain speed.

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And to put this in context, 10% inflation put

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prices up 10%. If it drops to 3%,

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the prices that have already gone up by 10% are now still going

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up, but only by 3%. That isn't good news.

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What you almost need is minus numbers in inflation to see

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prices going back to where they were. Well, that's never going to happen,

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so something needs to basically change. With that in mind,

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we need to think about the high costs, the low margins and the stuff

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that planning can't touch. To give a bit of a list of what's happening,

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we know that retailers are being squeezed from every angle. Rent sky high,

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living wages has gone up by over 20% in two years. Energy,

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insurance and compliance requirements, they've gone through the roof. And now

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everyone's bracing for national insurance and changes for business rates. The

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sector is staring down the barrel of an extra 2.3

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billion in costs. The government is saying they're going to

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reform rates. But even if that happens, most small

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shops and businesses with only one outlet already get relief.

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So the pain of business rates just gets pushed up to the big players.

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But it's the big players that drive the footfall, that support

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smaller independents. A few years ago I saw a stat that the perfect

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town was about 40% multiple and 60%

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independent. And the multiples are the anchor stores. So if you

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lose a Greggs, a Boots, a Primark and so on, the whole

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street will suffer. You need that mix. Unfortunately, we're losing

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banks as well. Now, banks drove footfall, post offices drove

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footfall. And as those businesses or organizations

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disappear, the ones who are left hopefully will

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drive the footfall. But if they go because their costs

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have become untenable and the store becomes non profitable,

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then everyone is going to miss out. I want to look at

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the economy in more detail and a couple of local examples

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and it links back to what the Centre for Cities said about it's an economic

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factor, not something else. So if you take

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towns like Bradford or Newport, the wages

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are lower and only one pound in every ten is spent on leisure.

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The vacancy rates track at around 16%, although it depends who you

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ask. With vacancy rates, there are different ways of measuring them, but this is based

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off the same general measure. Now, if you flip that over

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somewhere like York or central London, the dining

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spend jumps to 25%, but the

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vacancy rates are under 9%. So the problem

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isn't planning or parking or any of these other things that

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people declare are going to save the high street. The

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reality is it's pay packets. It doesn't matter what you do

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with regard to planning reform and changes to all these other structures.

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What you can't do is design your way out of economic inequality

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without people earning enough to go out, whether dining or

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shopping, planning and form, it's like

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rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Iceberg. There's another problem as

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well. There's a massive skills shortage. There's

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almost no staff, which means there's no service. It's

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really, really hard to recruit at the moment, especially in hospitality. And the

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staff turnover is immense. Retail's high,

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hospitality's higher and I think I read that gyms were over 100%

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turnover. Why? Well, people have left

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the sector, wages aren't keeping up and post

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Covid the talent pool shrank because with quite a lot of businesses forced to close,

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people found other jobs. The other issue is

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we've seen a massive increase in retail crime. Quite frankly,

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if you are being paid a low wage, would you rather be in a call

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centre where you're remote from the customer or in a shop where

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people get spat at, abused verbally and worse?

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And both the Retail Trust and the British Retail Consortium

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are really trying to encourage more emphasis on

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police intervention over retail crime because it isn't just

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shoplifting, it's a whole lot worse. In fact, if you go back to

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2020, a survey of retail leaders

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said 99% were worried about finding staff and that's

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at all levels. Of course, planning reform isn't going to change that.

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You can't run a pop up cafe in your empty unit if there's nobody there

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to actually make and serve coffee. Then we also have to look at what

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customer expectations are and they've changed too.

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We used to talk about omnichannel, multichannel bricks and clicks and so

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on, whatever you want to call it. And it used to be sort of the

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panacea, I would say now that is the absolute

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minimum expectation. As retailers and businesses in

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high streets and so on, there's certain things we can control.

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The digital presence, the quality of our click and collect

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the Google business profile, our local SEO through our E commerce, if we've

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got one stock visibility online and

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I mean I've mentioned this in previous episodes, but if you don't show up when

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someone Googles bike repair near me, you're pretty much

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invisible. Whoever does show up gets that business. They may not

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be the cheapest but they're the most discoverable. And

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really a lot of people think online is taken away from the high street,

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but actually the online footprint, whether it be social, Google

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business, E commerce, any of those things that should

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be sending footfall to your door. Argos is a Brilliant

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example. They've absolutely nailed it. They've got reserve online and collecting

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store. They've got all sorts of other methods by which customers

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can interact and engage. It's simple and it's effective and

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it's efficient. Because whilst I've been to a number of outlets

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where they've been rummaging around trying to find my particular parcel,

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that's never happened to me when I bought from Argos. I mean it doesn't

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take much for a small business to set up an E commerce.

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You don't need a fancy e commerce empire, a simple

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Shopify site or WooCommerce or one of the low cost

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or no cost platforms, a Google shopping feed,

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some local Facebook ads, or even just being in local Facebook groups

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and having an active page, perhaps a QR code on your window to

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bring people to the online store when you're closed. The thing is,

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it's not about being overly sophisticated or overthinking

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it. It's just about the customer journey. Smart

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joined up retail bricks and clicks and that isn't

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innovation anymore. That's the basics, that's what it takes to

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survive. Another area where I feel that more

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businesses should take more attention and also work with the local

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authorities and business improvement districts and so on is creating

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public realm improvements and partnerships. The way I

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see it is that retail doesn't happen in a vacuum.

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As I mentioned, you know, if you lose your anchor stores then you

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actually lose footfall to your smaller stores. It proves that

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the whole ecosystem brings the traffic. It's not just

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one business in isolation. Of course, one business has to market

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themselves and what they have to offer their customer experience and so on, but

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it's also about the whole place. There's a law in

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geographical terms that says that people like to go to places

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where they don't live. But if that's the case, people that don't

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live in your town will be coming to your town and you might be going

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to another town. And that's just because they like to shop in places

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that are new and fresh and explore. But people also

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like the comfort of shopping in places that they like,

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that they feel are safe. So

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cleanliness, safety, lighting in the evening, the

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ability to walk around, be able to cross the road if you you've got

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a town centre that's bisected by a large highway, for instance,

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and I've seen a few of those where one side of the road struggles and

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the other side of the road thrives. And it's also

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these days, let's be honest, Is it Instagrammable? So

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it's about spending in public spaces and perhaps creating collaborations

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to encourage the spend in public spaces. Greenery, trees and

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planters, benches, places to sit and have a

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sandwich, murals, street art, street art,

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installation markets, pop up, music, events, all

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the sort of things that create vibrancy and a happy environment.

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There are some places that do this really, really well and others

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that could go a bit further. One of my colleagues, for example, is co founder

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of Visit Knoll, effectively a destination marketing organization

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hybridized with a business improvement district. Some of the things they've

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achieved through that collaboration with the retailers and the board,

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who are also a bunch of small business owners and local people themselves,

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have been quite impressive for effectively a small town

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on the edges of Solihull. It's about creating that sense

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of it's such a nice place, I enjoy going here. It's clean,

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it's safe, it's walkable and it's Instagrammable. The other thing is

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that every pound spent on Public Realm will

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almost certainly trigger more private investment because what it does is it

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makes a place look more desirable. If a retailer is looking

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to open a first store or a second or a third or a hundredth, they

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will be doing some location analysis and they'll be looking at the demographic

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and they'll also be looking at the desirability of the area.

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Do I want my brand to be positioned here?

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Now we all know what a rundown high street looks like

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and we all know what kind of businesses would be expected to be

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found in a lower end demographic in a rundown high

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street. I won't name any brand names of course. We also

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all know what a thriving market town looks like

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with pretty cake shops, cafes, al fresco

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dining a couple of times a week. There's a market, it's clean, it's

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inviting, it's pretty, and there's always something to do. They're

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places where people who have spending power like to go. So

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what could you as the business trading there do to help your

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entire place improve its appeal? Not just

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to the locals, but actually to those people who want to pop

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out somewhere new for the day. So it's really

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all of this good stuff is about priming the pump to bring people in.

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And as I mentioned, I don't expect any retailers to grow alone or you might

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be the catalyst, but there could be a bid or a council

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or a town team or a destination marketing organization who

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can represent the area. And if you rally a

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few neighbors and approach them with a joined up

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proposal and a Joined up effort. Then it's amazing what

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can be achieved. It's not just about street cleaning,

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it's about creating an environment where people want to go.

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It's again, not one size fits all. For instance,

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where you have pedestrianization, but it means that deliveries can't

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get in, or it confuses drivers and they can't find the

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parking that will backfire. All of this should be done in

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consultation with the local community and not done

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to them. They must have the desire as well

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for all of this to happen and understand it enhances their

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experience as opposed to causing them an inconvenience.

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Then we need to think about a smarter commercial strategy. I

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like to say don't play shops.

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So this is for the retailers. You've got to treat your

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business like a business. It's not a hobby, it's not a hope.

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If it is a hobby, fine, fair enough. Expect to lose your

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life savings. It probably won't make money unless you treat

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it like a business. So what do businesses have to think about? Who's

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the customer? Exactly? What is it are you offering? Therefore, what

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is your range? What products are you going to stock at the detail level,

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at what price points and what margins? And are the prices

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aligned with the perceived value? You need to get the mix

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right, the pricing and promotions right, and you need to trim the fat so that

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you've got a curated range. Customers are often overwhelmed with

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choice. I mean, think about it. Nowadays if you go to

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the shampoo aisle in a supermarket, there's that many. I

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just look at it all and walk away because it's

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just overwhelming. There's often too much choice and choice can

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put people off. So a nicely curated range with maybe good,

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better, best, that keeps things simple. It provides

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solutions for a sensible range of budgets. Even if

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your ideal customer has got a good spending power, there'll still be some

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months they've had a big bill come in and they might have to trade down.

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So a good, better, best scenario always works and

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keeps customers happy without overwhelm and all that. Commercial

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strategy's fine. But above everything else,

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you've got to train the team. Service is edge,

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consultative sales. Knowing how to curate the sale,

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knowing when to step away and knowing when to step in. Upsell, cross,

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sell. It seems to be a lost skill. I'm sorry to say, but

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you often go into a retailer and the assistant grunts at you.

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Morning. It's awful. But you know what? When you meet a

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friendly, knowledgeable assistant who knows you and

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knows that knowing you is worth more than any Fancy

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signage. That's a bit of a joy, because working

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with a retailer means that you're actually their

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representative to the customer. Another thing, I've mentioned prep before.

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In a previous episode, Prep once said at a conference I was at

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that they didn't recruit on CVS and

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skills, they recruited on attitude. Because as long as somebody had a

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happy, open, willing attitude, you could pretty

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much teach them everything else they needed to know. And that really stuck with me,

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because you could meet somebody who's the best barista in the world,

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but if they're rude to the other members of the staff and they're grumpy with

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customers, they're just going to create problems for you. But there's

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nothing to stop you teaching a happy, smiley person with no skills whatsoever how to

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be the best barista in the world. And chances are they'll be even better, because

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not only will they make great coffee, they'll make people smile. And I've

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also mentioned moments of joy. Great service is

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unfortunately quite uncommon. So giving really good

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service, helping customers, facilitating

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knowing the product actually can be a moment of joy.

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Especially if you're unfamiliar with a purchase because you think, oh, thank

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goodness, you've made my life so much easier today. In this case, I remember

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my grandmother trying to go and find, I think it was some kind

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of game for my son for Christmas. She hadn't got a clue what she was

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doing, but she went into a couple of stores and they just went, the games

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are over there, and left her to it. And she was a bit like, I

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don't know what I'm doing. But then somebody came and said, you look a bit

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confused, madam. Would you like me to help you? And she phoned me and said,

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I met this really lovely lady and she helped me and I hope I've got

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the right thing. And she had, and it made all the difference. Now, if that

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person hadn't approached her, she wouldn't have spent her money there.

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And that's why it's so important. And also, she rang me to

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tell me about what a great experience she'd had. Now, if you extrapolate

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that to the modern world, that might go on a Facebook post,

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or on an Instagram or on a TikTok, who knows?

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But if somebody has a great experience, unfortunately, it's so rare that they

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do talk about it. Oh, they definitely talk about bad experiences,

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they're very vocal about those. But, yeah, they do talk about good

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experiences. So it's always worth making sure that you train your

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team in the best possible customer Service. And the other thing is

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linking to the place activities above. Collaborate.

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Could you cross promote your business with some other

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business that shares a similar customer base? So, for example, if you

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do children's shoes and there's a toy shop down the road, what's to say you

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couldn't buddy up with each other and help cross promote? And both

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in the real world and on social media, local groups

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on Facebook and destination marketing organizations

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have often supported local businesses with promotional

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posts, lovely photography and so on. And if all the businesses

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shared each other's posts onto each other's social

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pages, that would really amplify. And it's

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not about, well, that's taking the customer off me. If you have

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one customer, but each of 10 businesses have one customer, potentially that means

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10 businesses, 10 customers. And that's why it works. And even if

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this week they spend with your neighbor, next week their

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neighbor's customer might spend with you. So it's about taking that leap

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of faith and not being so protective about your customer base and

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opening up to collaborate within the local area. There's a couple of other

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initiatives I've seen things like shop local passports, shared

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loyalty cards between businesses. In Destination

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Lincolnshire, they have the Lincolnshire gift card, which is

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something that provides the opportunity for venues like hotels

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and Airbnb type places to give a gift on

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a card that can only be spent within the local participating

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businesses. So it keeps the money in the local economy. But all of this

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is just about being proactive, visible and joined up.

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The thing is, there's no fairy tales about the high street, but there is a

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future. The fact is, the high street in some streets. Think about

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the historic high streets we've got in the UK. They've been around for between three

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and 500 years. It started out as housing, but maybe

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with a market stall in front of the house, and then the stall became

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the shop at the bottom and the accommodation was above.

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And it's evolved and it's always been evolving and it's been

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changing with transport and the way people live their lives.

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When women started to go out to work full time, for

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instance, it changed the footfall pattern. And the high street

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didn't die, it didn't suddenly disappear, it's still

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there. But what's happening within each and every high street

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matters. So it's evolving and it's evolving far faster than ever

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before. Footfall's still a bit bumpy, to say the

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least. Budgets are tight, but the bright spots

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are there are mixed use precincts. They're quite resilient.

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Perhaps with skate parks, graffiti areas and other things to do

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so so that any behavior that might have been considered antisocial has its

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own zone. And graffiti artists are encouraged to do

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their graffiti within a place. Certainly I've seen

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something on the south bank in London which is a brilliant example of this.

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Retail parks are holding their own, but of course they're not

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necessarily positive to the high street. However, shopping centres within

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town centres are very positive. And the one thing

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that is absolutely clear, the good digital integration

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really does drive footfall. But I do want to say it again

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loud and clear. Stop playing shops,

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start being a really viable business. Cutting red tape

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is great, but it isn't the main course. We need customers with money,

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streets worth visiting and retailers that do the basics

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brilliantly. And this means smarter costs, smarter

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marketing, smarter streets. There's no point being nostalgic

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about what it was like in the 70s with the butcher, the baker and the

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candlestick maker. This is about strategy that's relevant today and into the

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future. I think with the right focus

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and planning, our high streets can honestly thrive again. They

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won't be the same, but they should be proud, profitable and

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worth a visit. Hopefully you found today's episode useful.

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If you did, please share it, rate it, subscribe. You know the drill.

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If you're a retailer, place manager or policymaker with skin in the

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game, I'd be happy to talk. This is Retail Reckoning. I'm

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Claire Bailey. I'll speak to you next time. Yeah, Retail

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Welcome to “Retail Reckoning,” the place where you get the real truth about what’s happening on Britain’s high streets. Hosted by Clare Bailey—aka the retail champion and basically a walking encyclopedia for all things retail—this show skips the sugar-coating and gets straight to the good stuff. Clare brings you sharp insights, honest stories, and no-fluff advice from people who've lived and breathed retail for years. Whether you love your local high street or just want to know what’s really going on behind the shop windows, you’re going to get plenty of sass, soul, and stories that actually matter. If you care about your town centre or just want the straight facts on retail, you’re in the right spot. Let’s get into it!